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Re: Samhain 1AD - an essay on the Star of Bethlehem
by Simon at 16:44 03/12/08 (Blogs::Simon)
Good question!

I think the key to understanding all this is to realise that the knowledge transferred is all about the sky, the movements of it and the symbolism associated with each 'age' of the precessional cycle and nothing to do with actual individuals, historic or messianic.

So in this story, the allegorical figure of Christ (the solar deity) is being associated with the dawn of a new Piscean age, and the closing of the previous Age of Aries. All the symbolism in the Christ myth points this way - it's fish, fish, fish and more fish :-)

The actual astronomical event class in question can be described as:

"If you look in the sky on this date of any year, you'll see that the three stars of Orion's belt rise first, followed by Sirius (which they point to) and then the Sun which rises where Sirius did earlier that night. This is because the Sun on this day of the year has the same declination as Sirius."

And:

"In this *particular* year, there is a triple quadruple conjunction - which is special and rare - and so we (the astronomer-priests in charge) have determined that this will be the marker for the imminent start of the Age of Pisces"

The first of these elements is part of the humdrum annual cycle of the year. The *second* is a far more signficant event and - critically - can be predicted with certainty in advance unlike (say) a comet, supernova or other random celestial event.

In 2AD (or 4BC or 100BC or...) there's a certainty that element #1 will occur, but only in 1AD does #2 happen at the same time.

The date of birth of any particular historical figure (such as a messianic leader) is actually entirely immaterial. The western calendar doesn't date from a physical birth, its start point is tied to a specific astronomical event - in the same way that the Mayan calendar's end is similarly tied to a different specific astronomical event.

Fragments of the characteristics of the key event have ended up being mythologised, including the later conflation of historical beings with allegorical concepts.

Note to self: This triple quadruple conjunction involving Mars plus the same three planets that attended the Sun's virgin birth at the start of the precessional cycle in 10880BC is interesting because Saturn was excluded then too (being on the other side of the sky, with the Moon)

Saturn/Cronos and the Moon, Vernal Equinox 10880BCSaturn/Cronos and the Moon at the Vernal Equinox in 10880BC, on the opposite side of the sky from where the action (the virgin birth of the Sun) is taking place, attended by Mercury, Venus and Jupiter/Zeus

... and this may be the source of the overthrow of Cronos by Zeus mythology that ended the Greek "Golden Age". I've come across conjunctions = Star of Bethlehem theories before, but they've usually involved the Jupiter/Saturn trigon.

Updated: it's a quadruple, not triple, conjunction.
--
simon

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