Wheeee - democracy in action!
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simon
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US Election
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Simon - 18:22 02/11/04
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Re: US Election
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Nic Jackson - 10:14 03/11/04
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America doesnt have Democracy it has Media-ocracy
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Nic
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Re: US Election
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David Crowson - 10:53 03/11/04
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no , it's a fear-ocracy :)
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bombholio
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Re: US Election
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Simon - 11:05 03/11/04
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http://www.michaelmoore.com/electionwatch/
... click the map to read what people have to say about their voting experiences in various states.
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simon
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Re: US Election
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scott wright - 16:24 03/11/04
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On the news last night they were at a polling station in a black (democrat) area, and the state's election officer, a republican, had given them only two instead of 4 machines leading to massive queues. The person at the station complained and managed to get one more machine. This is democracy in action.
What a disgrace.
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scott
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Re: US Election
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Simon - 16:42 03/11/04
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Yup, this election is even more of a blatant rip-off than the last one.
The stories that concern me most are the ones about the electronic election machines that record votes for Bush when Kerry was actually chosen, and don't provide any kind of paper audit trail.
I wish someone had pinched one of these machines from a Florida/Ohio precinct yesterday and given it to some geeks to disassemble.
Hell, the UK lottery machines are subject to more scrutiny and oversight!
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simon
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Re: US Election
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David Crowson - 16:51 03/11/04
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What worries me is that fact that Warren O'Dell , CEO of Diebold (they who make the machines) was quoted as saying to Republicans in a recent fund-raising letter that he is "committed to helping Ohio deliver its electoral votes to the president next year.".
see here
Fishy or what, they should send in the UN :)
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bombholio
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Re: US Election
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Simon - 11:26 06/11/04
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From a Wired story:
There were also problems with machines that counted absentee ballots in Florida. Software made by Election Systems & Software began subtracting votes when totals surpassed 32,000. Officials said the problem affected only certain countywide races on one of the last pages of the ballot. Elections officials knew about the problem two years ago, but the company failed to fix the software before the election this year.
...32765, 32766, 32767, -32768, -32767, -32766...
...signed integer overflow, anyone?
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simon
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votergate.tv
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Simon - 22:09 08/11/04
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http://votergate.tv/votergate/votergatethemovie_64kb.mov
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simon
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Re: votergate.tv
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David Crowson - 10:55 09/11/04
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8-0
Land of the Free, I think not.....
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bombholio
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Re: votergate.tv
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Simon - 11:20 09/11/04
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Don't worry, it couldn't possibly happen here....
.... or could it?
I bet there'd be a guerilla campaign to sabotage electronic voting machines should they be introduced in the UK. Pretty easy to do - a large enough static charge would probably be enough, or a few drawing pins pushed through the touchscreen and wiggled about a bit.
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simon
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Re: votergate.tv
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David Crowson - 11:34 09/11/04
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and obviously the biggest flaw with these machines is that no matter who you vote for , the Govt. always gets in :(
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bombholio
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Re: votergate.tv
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Gordon Hundley - 15:03 10/11/04
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It was a very polarised election. More of the country did in fact vote for Bush than those who did not. I think this was a great victory for Karl Rove, Bush's campaign mastermind.
However, I'm not as connected to this as most of the Americans I live among. A lot of them (particularly here in a "blue state") actually seemed to be under the impression that there would be a massive difference with a Kerry government. There would not. That said, I'd like to have seen Bush punished, at least symbolically.
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